What we can well call «the Journalism of shocking dialogues» begins to proliferate. Two characters, -intellectuals, writers, journalists, divers in the turbulent and restless waters of Transcendence- meet and start a friendly dialogue about the divine and the human, related to their profession or their work, their desires and ideals, their concerns, proposals and horizons. Then, depending on the medium of communication in which they act, for which they write or for which they speak, the religious dimension of life or the silhouette of a God in the background will appear, whom a part of humanity wants to “expel from the world and erase from history’, in a clamorous attempt to erase Christian civilisation. It is the battle of always, the permanent struggle between good and evil, encouraged in our days by the strong crisis that the “European conscience” is suffering. In this new journalism of “shocking dialogues”, I have read with delight, in the pages of Telva magazine, the “encounter” between one of the most luminous and, a priori, disparate couples that we can contemplate. One is a priest, author of the best-selling book ‘Biografía del silencio’, and the other is a columnist for the newspaper El Mundo and an award-winning poet: Pablo D’Ors and Antonio Lucas. They focused their conversation on spirituality, the uncertainties of this hour and the offer of a series of messages for a horizon full of black clouds that heralds great shipwrecks. Pablo D’Ors, a companion in the priesthood, I liked his optimistic vision of life, in spite of everything and above all: «By temperament I am rather pessimistic, but I have great hope because I see a movement of conscience growing. There will come a point where this exacerbation of technology that we live in will be overtaken by the spiritual. Today’s society makes it very difficult for us to develop the essential instead of the urgent. And to achieve this, the priest and writer speaks of silence and meditation, with beautiful words: «The essence of meditation is concentrated in one sentence: Look briefly and lovingly at your shadow. Meditating helps us detect and stop those toxic emotions and dark thoughts that jump out at us. We all unknowingly seek ways to approach the spiritual. For his part, Antonio Lucas begins by evoking his presence at the Silos Monastery for a week to make a series of reports and recount the monastic experience from the point of view of someone who does not participate in the liturgy or Catholic conventions. : «The days I spent in Silos, with the monks, fulfilling their rigors, I really enjoyed. I felt a point of magnetization to contemplative life that surprised me». Later, the journalist will say that «the Catholic Church has been won over by other positions, religious or not. In other words, the Church right now is not associated with the intellectual or the contemplative”. I am sure that this new «journalistic genre», that of the «meetings» of personalities, in intense dialogues, to contemplate the world, will make its way to travel a new path of enlightenment to the world, from the media. Pablo D’Ors and Antonio Lucas have offered us, from the vantage point of their sincerity and truth, splendid points of view. The words of Jesus of Nazareth come to mind, proclaimed in today’s Sunday masses, when he passed through cities and villages teaching, and one asked him: “Lord, are there few who are saved?”. Jesus does not answer about the number, but invites his listeners to “enter through the narrow door”, “to enter through Him”. The kingdom of God is universal, and it is not enough to “be descendants of the patriarchs or have lived with Jesus”; sincere acceptance of his message is necessary. Salvation is a free gift from God that demands reciprocity on our part.